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	<description>He's not hard to find, he's impossible to avoid...</description>
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		<title>Comment on The New Atheism as Mysticism by Ron Krumpos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Krumpos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my active career in airlines and hotels, I met 19 true mystics in 12 countries including a Nobel astrophysicist, a retired police inspector, a member of parliament, the chairman of a global bank, as well as religious leaders and scholars. Some were very religious, most of them not so, and two were agnostics. Each of them said that mysticism to them was a mode of being, a level of consciousness, rather than statement of their faith.

This diverse group of delightful people had each realized a profound transformation. Millions of other have had epiphanies, but few with the degree, duration or frequency which changed their awareness from personal to transpersonal. They inspired my e-book "the greatest achievement in life" which was posted at www.suprarational.org in 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my active career in airlines and hotels, I met 19 true mystics in 12 countries including a Nobel astrophysicist, a retired police inspector, a member of parliament, the chairman of a global bank, as well as religious leaders and scholars. Some were very religious, most of them not so, and two were agnostics. Each of them said that mysticism to them was a mode of being, a level of consciousness, rather than statement of their faith.</p>
<p>This diverse group of delightful people had each realized a profound transformation. Millions of other have had epiphanies, but few with the degree, duration or frequency which changed their awareness from personal to transpersonal. They inspired my e-book &#8220;the greatest achievement in life&#8221; which was posted at <a href="http://www.suprarational.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.suprarational.org</a> in 2009.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus and the Kingdom of God Part II by Mike Gottschalk</title>
		<link>http://www.camfreeman.com/?p=34#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gottschalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cam, I think we need to rethink our understanding of the "Gap" that you speak of-  It just ocurred to me while reading your post, that any pain that we attribute to separation is really due to not being able to imagine ourselves as having a profound "place" in God.  Do any of us want to be in constant presence with another?   Autonomy is an amazing feat when you think about it.  I've always been suspicious of spiritual approaches that look more like a longing to be breast fed;  I would now say, that the way that Jesus embodies is one that first establishes our place with God, and then move's us into full adulthood where we develop our ability to be autonomous while at the same time guarding the autonomy of the other.  Your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cam, I think we need to rethink our understanding of the &#8220;Gap&#8221; that you speak of-  It just ocurred to me while reading your post, that any pain that we attribute to separation is really due to not being able to imagine ourselves as having a profound &#8220;place&#8221; in God.  Do any of us want to be in constant presence with another?   Autonomy is an amazing feat when you think about it.  I&#8217;ve always been suspicious of spiritual approaches that look more like a longing to be breast fed;  I would now say, that the way that Jesus embodies is one that first establishes our place with God, and then move&#8217;s us into full adulthood where we develop our ability to be autonomous while at the same time guarding the autonomy of the other.  Your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus and the Kingdom of God Part II by Mike Gottschalk</title>
		<link>http://www.camfreeman.com/?p=34#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gottschalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cam, I'm just reading this now and I would comment on a couple of things to start.

When it comes to polar tensions, they are only effective if they stay out of equilibrium- states which indicate a system at 100% entropy.  Aliveness depends on states remaining in flux.  So I like your aversion to non-dual unity.

I also like your distinction between spiritualities that seek a way out of this world, and those that seek a way into this world.  I'd like to further this conversation when I can put a little more time into this.  

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cam, I&#8217;m just reading this now and I would comment on a couple of things to start.</p>
<p>When it comes to polar tensions, they are only effective if they stay out of equilibrium- states which indicate a system at 100% entropy.  Aliveness depends on states remaining in flux.  So I like your aversion to non-dual unity.</p>
<p>I also like your distinction between spiritualities that seek a way out of this world, and those that seek a way into this world.  I&#8217;d like to further this conversation when I can put a little more time into this.  </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>Comment on Integral Life&#8217;s No. 1 Blog (after the CEO&#8217;s Integral Life Sucks&#8230;) by Dr. Freeman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jesus and the Kingdom of God Part II</title>
		<link>http://www.camfreeman.com/?p=33#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Freeman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jesus and the Kingdom of God Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 10:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For Part 1 Click here [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Jesus at the Edge of Chaos: Towards and Evolutionary Christology by Mike Gottschalk</title>
		<link>http://www.camfreeman.com/?p=30#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Gottschalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 14:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Freeman,

I just found your site this morning,  great find.  Its encouraging to me, to find another follower of Christ who seeks and finds His reality in reality, instead of relying on novel ways of sermonizing a cultural expression, who's form remains frozen for two millennia and counting.

I recognize a devotional motivation behind keeping the first century events intact as the totality of God's revelation, but I would argue that any durability built on freezing a moment from time will not constitute the Eternal: the durability of the Eternal arises from its nature as being fundamental to Human reality, and not merely a cultural artifact.

So for me, I now hold insight gained from scientific understanding with an equal footing to the insight I gain from the scriptures.  Furthermore, I'm asserting that any power the scriptures have for enlightening our understanding is derived, not from it's being, The Bible, but by its ability to illuminate something relevant for us to see in contemporary reality; and looking in our reality from its point of view, we'll be able to recognize it.  

Any way, I look forward to more of your thinking, and I want you to know that I'm in your cam p.

Mike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Freeman,</p>
<p>I just found your site this morning,  great find.  Its encouraging to me, to find another follower of Christ who seeks and finds His reality in reality, instead of relying on novel ways of sermonizing a cultural expression, who&#8217;s form remains frozen for two millennia and counting.</p>
<p>I recognize a devotional motivation behind keeping the first century events intact as the totality of God&#8217;s revelation, but I would argue that any durability built on freezing a moment from time will not constitute the Eternal: the durability of the Eternal arises from its nature as being fundamental to Human reality, and not merely a cultural artifact.</p>
<p>So for me, I now hold insight gained from scientific understanding with an equal footing to the insight I gain from the scriptures.  Furthermore, I&#8217;m asserting that any power the scriptures have for enlightening our understanding is derived, not from it&#8217;s being, The Bible, but by its ability to illuminate something relevant for us to see in contemporary reality; and looking in our reality from its point of view, we&#8217;ll be able to recognize it.  </p>
<p>Any way, I look forward to more of your thinking, and I want you to know that I&#8217;m in your cam p.</p>
<p>Mike.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Future of Human Nature by Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.camfreeman.com/?p=24#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had dismissed Habermas's objections to stem cell research without really considering them. Not surprisingly, his argument is sophisticated - being predicated on his notion of communicative rationality. 

But I still feel he's being somewhat reactionary. Sure, the instrumental rationality of stem cell research and genetic manipulation pose dangers to humans, but they also offer opportunities to escape our lesser selves. Wouldn't it be great to escape the messy reality of sexual reproduction, but retain its sensual pleasures. Who knows what lies on the other side of the genetic door? It's human nature to take a peak, and human nature to be trapped inside the new room. 

We're becoming ever more capable of understanding ourselves and the futures of our choices. I would, with great deference, advise Habermas to support the inevitable manipulation of the human genome, but the encourage debate around what the products of such manipulation are. Surely great.r rationality, artistic ability intelligence and health cannot be bad things and are possible once we've understood the loci of these human virtues? We just need to tread carefully and KEEP TALKING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had dismissed Habermas&#8217;s objections to stem cell research without really considering them. Not surprisingly, his argument is sophisticated - being predicated on his notion of communicative rationality. </p>
<p>But I still feel he&#8217;s being somewhat reactionary. Sure, the instrumental rationality of stem cell research and genetic manipulation pose dangers to humans, but they also offer opportunities to escape our lesser selves. Wouldn&#8217;t it be great to escape the messy reality of sexual reproduction, but retain its sensual pleasures. Who knows what lies on the other side of the genetic door? It&#8217;s human nature to take a peak, and human nature to be trapped inside the new room. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re becoming ever more capable of understanding ourselves and the futures of our choices. I would, with great deference, advise Habermas to support the inevitable manipulation of the human genome, but the encourage debate around what the products of such manipulation are. Surely great.r rationality, artistic ability intelligence and health cannot be bad things and are possible once we&#8217;ve understood the loci of these human virtues? We just need to tread carefully and KEEP TALKING!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Post-Metaphysical Musings Part I: Ken Wilber&#8217;s Integral Spirituality by Dr. Freeman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Post-Metaphysical Musings Part II - Jesus’ Paradoxes and the Myth of the Given</title>
		<link>http://www.camfreeman.com/?p=13#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Freeman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Post-Metaphysical Musings Part II - Jesus’ Paradoxes and the Myth of the Given</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Click here for For Part 1 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Source Code: An Inisght into the Mind of the Historical Jesus by Post-Metaphysical Musings &#171; Dr. Freeman - The Midnight Sun</title>
		<link>http://www.camfreeman.com/?p=11#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Post-Metaphysical Musings &#171; Dr. Freeman - The Midnight Sun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] own approach to post-metaphysics (see the Source Code blog on this site) maintains that when we give expression to our spiritual experience and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Source Code: An Inisght into the Mind of the Historical Jesus by Dr. Freeman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Post-Metaphysical Musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Freeman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Post-Metaphysical Musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] own approach to post-metaphysics (see the Source Code blog on this site) maintains that when we give expression to our spiritual experience and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Easter Saturday: The Night in Which All Cows Are Black by Foreclosure &#187; Easter Saturday: The Night in Which All Cows Are Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foreclosure &#187; Easter Saturday: The Night in Which All Cows Are Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dr. Freeman wrote an interesting post today on Easter Saturday: The Night in Which All Cows Are BlackHere&#8217;s a quick excerpt &#8230; nd the heretic, the messiah and the false prophet, as soon as you think you have a handle on this distinction, then that is the foreclosure of faith, the end of hope a nd an obstacle to love!&#8230; [...]</description>
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